Have you done the fitting math? Plus who the hell runs 4 complex plates? You would move slower than a heavy with 40% decrease to running speed.

In other words LOL NO

Smart people will keep shield tanking because there will be a rise in usage of explosive weaponry to counter the resurge of popularity with armour tanking.

Slow-moving heavies with slow-moving logistics players sticking with them? Flux + MD, free double kill.

Therefore, CCP has simply indirectly restated their preference for shields. Armour supporters have been checkmated.

Your move, community.


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Oh how I love inciting revolutionary zeal.

you forgot to mention the huge penalty to movement :)

This guy needs locking in a cage somewhere and NEVER be allowed to post on any forum ever again!

first of all, enhanced plate lose 27 hp afters skills
and second, you cleary dont know how stacking penalty works

Did the fitting for the Gallente logistics, and it is possible but there are some caveats that would mean this suit will not be abused in this way. First of all the suit will move at 4.09 m/s, thats almost the speed of a heavy without the same HP, absolutely no room for equipment not even a hive, if using a Duvolle and it requires 5/5 fitting skills. Also because of how limiting the speed is nobody is going to make this type of suit, also this type of suit is currently possible just with lower HP but it is also possible with every other suit but because of the speed penalties nobody uses it, thus it doesn't exist now and it won't exist then.

The Assault gk.0 can get be built slightly the same, but with 100 armor HP less. The difference is that it also has to resort to a Gek-38 and has lower repair (again I believe CCP will add passive armor), on the plus side it has higher shield repair and a speed of 4.51 m/s which is way faster than the logistics.

4 complex plates = 48 pg.
1 complex repper = 11 pg
2 complex damage mods = 18 pg
1 complex shield extender = 11 pg.
Duvolle = 11 pg (8 with fitting optimization)


That's 99 pg without any nades or equips...Yeah...you'd need all core skills maxxed out, couldn't run much for nades, and no equips. I have 102 pg. with all core skills decked out.

/thread and the move speed penalty for that stacking included would still bring you down to 4.09 move speed....which is slow as ****.

Well until assault suits start carrying repair tools I really don't think we should lose this skill, you should add in the fact a good Logi will keep you repped not constantly, but when your armor needs a polish.

All suits will stack plates not just the Gallente logistics.

The assault has a faster shield repair, so its practically a trade off.

haha you obviously have no clue, stacking penalty does not apply for the speed penalty =D

Someone get the OP out of here. He's the reason every gun and suit in this game is gonna blow.

An Effective fit =/= OP

Yeah, I kinda agree with (is this Cat Merc?) OP here. There's no good reason for the GalLogi to have such vastly superior tank to the Assault.

Logi can only be op against noobs.
In real battles they run out of ammo.

You can have all the armor you want, but wirhout bullets who cares. Plus armor tanking effects speed. Its a great suit but assualt in nuetral territory always wins.

u cant have any hives if u put all ur pg on armor plates and Dmg moludes

well it mean u have no nadas or u using gek 38.not everyone using same weapon. if u combo ASCR with core nadas u dont even have a hives to use =)

that why u have enough pg for hive but if u go on ascr it cost u **** load of pg

like i said if u go full complex plates with max dmg (proto weapon and 2x dmg modules) u cant put hive on it.



anyway who need hives when u on pc all ur teammate drop hive for you XD

Difference between the Logi suit and Assault suit after 1.4 would be 5 repair and 100 armor HP.

Where's your drop uplinks? How about your repair tool? Huh. I don't see a nanite injector in that loadout, either.

I am a real logistics trooper, Argon Gas, and, son, you're no logistics trooper. You're an *assault* player abusing the logistics class, and then yipping that it should be nerfed. Us logistics players ought to be pissed off at folks like you who run around doing this stuff, and if CCP listens to your "advice," those us who role-play properly wind up being punished because of players like you.

And, I've said it before and I'll say it again: If I'm going to be running around in a proto logistics suit with proto equipment out the wahoo to keep people like you, Argon Gas, supplied, repaired, healed and with strategic respawn points, I want protection. There's no way in God's green earth that I'm going to waste my ISK saving/resupplying your butt if my logistics suit of choice is nerfed because of assault players who abused the role-play system.

I've been wondering the same thing. If you can't work something out with that crazy shield regen bonus and the ability to use a sidearm, something's wrong. Bigger buffer Gëá better.

Sidearms have nothing to do with aim, they're primarily better in CQC or complement weapons that aren't effective at short range. Laser/SMG is a pretty nasty combo.
The Gallente bonus is a shield vs armor issue. There's a good topic discussing it if you haven't yet.
The overlooked issue is that assault have more flat out DPS because they have access to a sidearm.

It's still 2 weapons that you can switch to on the fly.
1 + 1 = 2
Logis (Except the Amarr) only get one weapon.
1 + 0 = 1
That second weapon means more DPS, whether you want to admit it or not. Hell, if you have good aim, the breach SP beats the AR if you can land some headshots. Even the damn Ishukone out damages the Duvolle and Boundless HMG.

So a Gal Logi with a Laser Rifle in CQC has more DPS than someone with a Side Arm?
So MD users getting 6/8 shots before the one of the slowest reload times in the game doesn't hurt DPS?
SR reaches overheat and your opponent sees you don't have a side-arm so they are just going to let you cool down first?
Even 60 bullets from an AR can run out in quite alot of situations.

Now you're just arguing semantics. If sidearms are so unimportant why don't all logis have them?

Because logi suits trade their base stats and sidearm for them. Same reason why heavies don't have an equipment slot and why scouts are (too) squishy but fast. It's called having a tradeoff. CCP thought it was important.

That'll just give people something more to complain about. See all the MD QQ? Imagine how butthurt people will be about webifiers and scramblers.

Are you the same guy that started the "Flaylock is OP!!!!" threads after they released that video, a month before it was even in-game?

Serious question: What's your obsession with telling others what to do? You're like the ultimate backseat gamer.

Last I heard a game is about having fun. I spend 40hrs a week getting told what to do, why the hell would I want that included in what I do in my free time?

Silly Blackstar. It doesn't matter as long as you *can* fit the massive tank. EFT warrioring at its finest! Nobody needs a weapon or equipment when you're an immobile suicide tower.

/sarcasm